Episode #567 - Rocket Science vs Business Rates - Scaling Lessons from Both Worlds — ScaleUp Radio Episode #567

Episode #567 - Rocket Science vs Business Rates - Scaling Lessons from Both Worlds

Episode #567 30 Jan 2026

Show notes

In this special edition of ScaleUp Radio Shorts, Kevin Brent and Granger Forson dive into two recent interviews that couldn’t be more different on the surface; but reveal some remarkably similar lessons underneath.

On one side, we have Aqeel Shamsul, founder of cutting-edge space biotech startup Frontier Space, turning microgravity into a drug development advantage.

On the other, Tom Perry and Ella Chapman from Holloway Bond, redefining the approach to business rates recovery through data-led outreach and customer-first practices.

From rocket science to rateable values, this episode is a compelling breakdown of the shared truths behind successful scaleups.

 

💡 Key Highlights:

Solve a Real Problem, Build the Right Team
Whether in outer space or in high-street offices, the guests focused on one key thing: identifying a genuine pain point and assembling the right people to solve it.

From Hustle to Systems
Aqeel bootstrapped his first space mission while washing dishes during his PhD. Tom & Ella took on every business function until they hit bottlenecks—then learned to outsource and scale smart.

Proactive Sales Is King
Frontier Space invests heavily in Business Development, even in deep-tech. Holloway Bond flips the model by finding clients through data, rather than waiting for them to call.

Culture and Hiring Matter More Than Ever
In both businesses, early hires define the culture. Whether it’s recruiting for attitude in a niche field or insisting on in-person interviews to gauge culture fit—getting the right people on board is non-negotiable.

Stay Focused on Your Core
Tom & Ella are weighing up diversification. Granger’s advice? “Stick to the knitting” until systems and leadership layers are strong enough to expand.

 

🚀 Standout Message:

“Whether you’re dealing with the European Space Agency or your local council’s valuation office, business always comes down to: Do you solve a real problem? Do you have a team that can deliver? And can you sell it?”

 

🔑 The One Key Thing:

Proactive, focused execution; not the industry you’re in; is what drives scale.

 

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This episode has been created utilising AI technology