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Episode #594 - Burnout doesn’t stay at the top, it cascades through the organisation - with Anita Cavrag — ScaleUp Radio Episode #594

Episode #594 - Burnout doesn’t stay at the top, it cascades through the organisation - with Anita Cavrag

Episode #594 13 Apr 2026

Show notes

Hi there and welcome back to another edition of ScaleUp Radio, the podcast brought to you by Smart90, inspired by the Entrepreneurial ScaleUp System and designed to make navigating our ScaleUp journeys that little bit easier by learning from others' experiences.

I’m Kevin Brent and in today's episode I’m joined by Anita Čavrag, a leadership expert who specialises in helping founders overcome burnout and build high-performing, engaged teams.

In this episode, Anita shares practical frameworks to help you make the critical shift from operator to leader — and why failing to do so is one of the biggest hidden barriers to scaling a business. We also explore how burnout at the top impacts the entire organisation, and what you can do to create psychological safety so your team can truly perform.

One standout insight from the conversation is this: leadership isn’t about doing more — it’s about becoming someone your business no longer depends on.

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Anita can be found here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-cavrag-career-coach/

https://www.fireflycareer.com/

Downloadable Resource - https://www.fireflycareer.com/5-deadly-habits

 

Resources:

The Inventing Organisations by Frederic Lalouix - https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/-

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